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26 Responses to “Bipolar Disorder, A Legitimate Disability?”

  1. PennyAnn25 says:

    Maybe not. She was …
    Maybe not. She was just expressing to me that the dose was very small so I would worry less.

  2. creager300 says:

    Your ” friend ” is …
    Your ” friend ” is very ignorant, as is 90% of the population. Someone who has never experienced Bipolar cannot and will not EVER be able to relate. Pediatric dose of Zoloft ? I’m sorry, but kids should never take these drugs.

  3. updownjunkie says:

    There are some …
    There are some cases of schizophrenia and bipolar that are simply too severe to not be treated with drugs. An out of control psychotic state doesn’t just not fit in with society, it actually endangers the life of the person experiencing it.

  4. catgumart says:

    I’d say that if …
    I’d say that if that is what is right for you good. I see you suffer quite badly, having similar but not all the same problems or to the same degree I can offer some sympathy. I’d say that one shouldn’t have to suffer to the degree you have to get relief, this life shouldn’t be an endurance competition to prove how nuts one can be and still live out the expectations of the norm. Ill say that you shouldn’t have to take prescription medication for “disorders” to continue getting ssi.

  5. PennyAnn25 says:

    Yes it’s individual …
    Yes it’s individual. Check definition of ‘disorder’ on Wiki. I know from experience that without my meds I’d constantly be in the hospital & have to be looked after by family or health care workers. I wouldn’t be able to function at all. When I’m delusional during mania or depression, not only am I a danger to myself but also a danger to others. When I take my meds I spend more time closer to MY normal mood state & I can do a lot to take care of myself & I’m not having dangerous thoughts.

  6. catgumart says:

    Hopefully I’m …
    Hopefully I’m coming through loud and clear when I say 1.I think you know what is best for you2.I believe these types difficulties are real and authentic3.I myself am on ssi for similar reasons and I can’t function well enough to work, I need ssi and I’m not lazy and I’m not faking as some my insinuate.If someone met me today they might say “There is nothing wrong with you, you can work” Id say NO! Today I’m at home doing yoga etc.,work is a whole different context please don’t take my ssi!

  7. catgumart says:

    I would …
    I would respectfully have to disagree, there are natural reactions to stress brought on by different stimuli that can bring a healthy person to end of their wits, there is nothing artificial about it, its a real natural organic response that can happen to anyone . I’m pro choice when it comes to using medicines, so if it helps a person then fine, but I would encourage them to to know about the side effects, and to consider alternatives as well, and I don’t believe anyone should be forced drugged

  8. catgumart says:

    So I’m saying it is …
    So I’m saying it is not just solely the person but a mix between a persons unique characteristics and how the environment acts on them, rather than just saying it is the patient who has a disorder. If it really even is a disorder at all and not some natural reaction or response by the mind and body that can come and go or could be treated by removing the stressor that is in the environment rather then stigmatizing and treating with drugs that can have potentially harmful side effects.

  9. PennyAnn25 says:

    I’m sorry, but …
    I’m sorry, but there is nothing natural about believing seriously bizzare things happened when they didn’t & believing them to the point of almost taking my own life – happily, because I was manic & I believed there was something magical waiting for me. When the antipsychotics cleared my thinking, I was absolutely terrified & horrified that my brain could go so wrong, manufacturing a completely false & dangerous reality, tricking me into taking my own life.

  10. catgumart says:

    I agree but what …
    I agree but what kind of intervention and treatment is used should be up to the individual, also the diagnosis can be incorrect since many psychiatric disorders blur into each other or have similar symptoms. I’d also say that the individual suffering from these feelings or behaviors shouldn’t be the main focus of the treatment, just because a person has these behaviors etc..doesn’t mean that they have a disorder, their are external triggers and issues that contribute to a persons difficulties

  11. catgumart says:

    delusions& …
    delusions&hallucinations&disorganized behavior, I can explain a bit many people who “function” may have many of these same problems but they are less honest about them that doesn’t make them any better, also many of these things may be natural responses to undue external stress in our times, not the result of an “illness” or the result of some fault or flaw with the patient. Some of these responses may be perfectly natural, also what are labeled delusions etc..may not be what they are labled..

  12. PennyAnn25 says:

    I don’t consider it …
    I don’t consider it a flaw either, and I detest the terms mental illness and the mentally ill. I prefer psychiatric disorder. But I do consider it something that requires intervention when it is negatively affecting your daily life, causing disruption and keeping you from having optimal quality of life, and that can only be considered on an individual basis.

  13. PennyAnn25 says:

    I disagree. I only …
    I disagree. I only have certain behaviors when I ‘m manic & depressed, very different from strong emotions during normal mood. When my mood is normal I’m never delusional, euphoric to the point of danger, or spend money impulsively (normally I’m very thoughtful about my purchases). Only when I’m depressed do I get a certain kind of paranoia, never in a normal mood. Many examples. How do you explain psychotic delusions & hallucinations & disorganized behaviors that go with the mood changes?

  14. catgumart says:

    One thing that …
    One thing that needs to be said is that because you experience strong emotions, that interfere with the norm doesn’t mean that you are truly flawed, Mental illness(I really don’t believe in Mental illness though for convenience I’ll use the term) is way to label certain characteristics of people, don’t forget to realize that a lot of people who can “function” often times have problems/faults that are less obvious. They can be dishonest,superficial, cruel. I believe you are not lazy!

  15. PennyAnn25 says:

    Exactly. In …
    Exactly. In particular, the symptom of irritability had increased & the without warning,unstoppable volatile outbursts aren’t going to fly in any workplace. Neither will the uncontrollable sobbing that sometimes paralyzes me. I’ve embarrassed myself enough just going about daily errands with these symptoms. I can’t retain information when I’m overwhelmed, difficulty prioritizing a regular day. When depressed I can’t make decisions & become very needy. The added stress would only make this worse.

  16. marthawhitehouse says:

    I have Bipolar I …
    I have Bipolar I Mixed type. I can’t work either and my symptoms have worsened with time. The person who sent you that email is ignorant. Holding down a job is just impossible for some people suffering from Bipolar. I have symptoms that make it impossible for me to work a job anymore. So I really understand what you’re going through. You can do everything right and still have problems. It all depends on the severity of the illness. I can’t go out to grocery stores with my symptoms!

  17. catgumart says:

    But in our society …
    But in our society every one is either to self conscious, critical, or repressed to sing, or they feel that they cant sing so they don’t try…But it should be a daily practice in my opinion just like getting exercise. Finally every day I jog and try to get some rhythmic exercises in during my jog, skipping or intuitive dance here in Phoenix there is a mountain preserve that is excellent for this activity. Well I know ive said a lot, maybe this can help yourself or someone else, Thanks!

  18. catgumart says:

    As I aspire to …
    As I aspire to become a skilled musician (clarinet ,guitar,piano,voice) I everyday work on music for a couple hours, progress is slow, and I don’t have money for the tools to enhance my learning speed but I make due. The most important instrument to me is the voice, and I practice solfege, for at least half an hour a day, then I practice singing a song, this takes care of my voice and keeps that 3rd chacra open and unblocked, this is very important and I think more people should sing,or chant.

  19. catgumart says:

    My daily routine …
    My daily routine absolutely must involve a yoga session. There are very important aspects of our selves that need to be kept balanced so that our body and minds feel good. One is posture and comfort in our body and natural organic movement. Another is our voice, we need to be able to speak up and speak naturally and with confidence. Many people due to today’s way of life, their bodies and voices atrophy and wither from disuse and it causes the body/mind to feel bad,sick, blocked ,repressed.

  20. catgumart says:

    I don’t use …
    I don’t use pharmaceutical drugs, when I’ve taken them in the past the negative side effects outweighed anything positive.What helps me is positive outward self expression. Both physical, and intellectual/creative. If I don’t get this I go inward and sort of collapse in on myself if that makes sense, become prisoner to my brain and external circumstance. The opportunity for people to self express in our society is either inhibited, or obscured and it brings people to an apathetic state.

  21. catgumart says:

    People experience …
    People experience life in different ways, success is dependent on a array of different factors.Some things are easy to some while being far more challenging to others. It is no simple matter to explain people’s particular difficulties, but it is very easy to say “your lazy etc…” like people will. But even if one is “bipolar” they can still find ways to participate and contribute and find happiness even if it is in more subtle ways or outside the norm.

  22. catgumart says:

    There are a lot of …
    There are a lot of people who work who are irresponsible in many other ways, maybe they neglect to take care of there physical health, maybe they participate in occupations that involve dishonesty or destruction of the environment or are exploitative to others, there is a lot of work to do just on ones self and in the immediate present of our lives. If one goes about society healthy, cultivated and in a stable frame of mind they are contributing just by being there.

  23. catgumart says:

    You ‘re situation …
    You ‘re situation is similar to mine, I’m male, maybe that makes things different, I don’t know. People’s notions of work ethic and laziness are shallow. There are more responsibilities than occupation, and many aspects of life require work and struggle. I have a daily exercise regime,and music practice regime, and I use the public library and this computer (my moms) for intellectual self cultivation and for keeping up on current events, I don’t play video games or watch TV.

  24. PennyAnn25 says:

    It isn’t a sin. & …
    It isn’t a sin. & it isn’t like I sit at my computer playing video games & watch TV all day. I have a very busy structured (low stress) day. I have responsibilities (low stress) & obligations. At my mom’s house I care for the pets (special needs), household chores, make videos to help others, do what I need to take care of myself. It’s a shame I feel the need to explain this every time I mention I am on disability. I shouldn’t have to but I believe people assume I am lazy & trying to avoid work.

  25. catgumart says:

    for me people have …
    for me people have expressed skepticism to disbelief and resentment that I get benefits for mental health,I try to ignore it, I can’t convince them, explaining things to them requires personal in depth discussion of my life, and it is like I have to sit there and convince them why and how i am flawed and that is humiliating, People need to understand that others have different limitations and challenges, they need to be more sympathetic to of that. Anyway unemployment is no sin.

  26. Andrew says:

    Well, there are different kinds of disability to consider. First you have the social security definition of disability which pretty much says you are disabled if you cannot perform ANY substantial gainful work. Since very few people buy their own personal coverage, they must rely on social security.

    However, you also have personal disability insurance which is more occupational-disability-oriented. This type of disability provides benefits if you are prevented from performing the substantial duties of your OWN occupation. Some provide if you cannot perform the duties of ANY occupation by which you are suited for by training education or experience.

    Private disability is obviously easier to qualify for and is what most professionals own to protect any potential loss of their ability to perform professional duties due to their medical or injury impairment.

    So, the answer is: It depends.
    Andrew
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